During the 2013 NRA annual meeting in Houston, Texas (May 2-5), Saba was interviewed by NRA News about proposals to ban lead ammunition in the state of California. Saba stated, "Lead ammunition has been demonized tremendously by the anti-gun forces. Basically, they've just tried to...put lead ammunition in the same class as lead paint or leaded gasoline. And there's a huge difference between the metallic lead that's in ammunition and the soluble compounded lead that's in leaded paint. The lead that's in paint is very toxic, extremely toxic. The lead that's in ammunition is fairly non-toxic, really. But the anti-lead people want to confuse the issue. And that's really the crux of the problem."  Saba further said about claims that eating game shot with lead ammunition can be harmful to one's health: "That's scare tactics. That's nonsense ... We found a number of flawed scientific studies. Outright fraud in some cases ... The end result is you've got garbage science, junk science." In fact, a 2009 Centers for Disease Control study tested 738 people in six North Dakota cities and found that those who ate wild game had 50 percent more lead in their blood than those who did not. The lead exposure was highest among people who consumed not only venison, but also birds and other game. “What was most troubling is that as wild game consumption increases, the blood-lead levels increase,” said Mary Jean Brown, chief of the CDC’s lead poisoning prevention branch. “The strong recommendation we would make is that pregnant women should not consume this meat.” Other studies have shown that venison packets donated by hunters to feed the hungry are contaminated with toxic lead.